domingo, setembro 17, 2006

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It' easy to confirm this story.

Get a journalist to visit Becora prison and have a chat to Abilio Mesquita.

Abilio was the operational commander of Dili police. This is just to confirm whether he made those statements or not. If he did, the you can move to confirm his story.

Get an interview with the two bishops. They are men of God who have vowed to take a pious life and will tell the truth. They would not lie. And get an interview with Xanana himself to confirm.

Also interview with TMR, Koliaty, Ular, Falur and Lere to confirm his story, whether he really called them on that day.

Or the best thing may be to wait untill the conclusion of the UN's investigation.

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8 comentários:

Anónimo disse...

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Dos leitores
É fácil confirmar esta história.

Arranje um jornalista para visitar a prisão de Becora e tenha uma conversa com Abilio Mesquita.

Abilio foi o comandante operacional da polícia de Dili. Só para confirmar se ele fez estas declarações ou não. Se ele fez, então pode mover-se para confirmar a sua história.

Arranje uma entrevista com os dois bispos. São os homens de Deus que prometeram ter uma vida pia e dizer a verdade. Não mentirão. E arranje uma entrevista com o próprio Xanana para confirmar.

Entreviste também TMR, Koliaty, Ular, Falur e Lere para confirmar a sua história, se realmente ele lhes telefonou nesse dia.

Ou, a melhor coisa é talvez esperar pela conclusão da investigação da ONU.

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Anónimo disse...

One thing is to confirm that Mr Mausoko really said that another is to confirm that what he is saying is true. Presente the evidence and send the PR to prison. Xanana already stated previously that if he did anything wrong he is ready to go to prison. So wy does't Fretilin follow this up?? After all this would be the best opportunity for "payback" but do it through the justice system. Doing this kind of smear campaign on the media without testing it through the justice system is nothing but defamation
I would like to see Mr. mausoko prove what he says. My bet is that being a memer of fretilin imself he has already received a handsome amount to make that statement.

Anónimo disse...

response to anonymous 7:40:13 SMEAR CAPAIGN YOU SAY, HOW HIPOCRITICAL OF YOU....AND THERE WAS NEVER A SMEAR CAMPAIGN AGAINST MARI ALKATIRI? YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE JOKE……TRUTH HURTS DOESN'T IT.

Anónimo disse...

Yes smear campaign because all there is is a man called mausoko making a claim without any other piece of evidence to corroborate his story. What else is there other then his claim?

As for Mari I think there was more than just an allegation. There was a group of civilians in possesion of weapons from the Border Patrol Police, there was a confirmation from Rogerio that he had recruited Railos and his group to work as "scouts" for the police, There was a statement from Rogerio saying that Mari was aware of it all whem Mari denied all along any knowledge of it, there was a claim by Railos that he had a meeting with Mari on May 8 where he received his orders and although Mari denied giving any orders do arm them he did however confirm that he indeed met with Railos on that day.
There was also the Labadain militia group that claimed they had been distributed weapons by government official, etc.

This in the very least warranted an investigation to further look at those compelling pieces of evidence.

As for the President what do you have? Just an allegation from a Mr mousoko? Mind you that allegation is very hard to believe due to very serious contradictions. He claimed to have warned Taur and other F-FDTL officers and then went ahead with the attack anyway?? If he warned Taur is because he did not agree with the order to attack and was simpathetic to Taur Matan Ruak. If this was the case why did he go ahead with the attack still???
If that wasn't enough he sought refuge at the F-FDTL HQ after attacking the house of the army chief? Can you see how ridiculous that story is? It makes no sense whatsoever!!

Anónimo disse...

Onde é que o Anónimo das 12:08:07 AM leu que o Mausoko se foi refugiar no QG das F-FDTL? Pensa que é com invenções dessas que baralha o pessoal? Tenha juízo. Os leitores do timor-online são perspicazes.

Anónimo disse...

In response to 7:40:13 PM

"My bet is that being a member of fretilin himself he has already received a handsome amount to make that statement." Where is your evidence that FRETILIN makes payments to people to make such statements?

You are an absolute hypocrite. Can't handle it when the shoe is on the other foot. Let's wait for the UN Investigation and whether there is any truth about this man's statement.

And please, lets no even go there as to whether there was a smear campaign against Alkatiri and FRETILIN. You will just simply get shut down.

Anónimo disse...

Of course; lets do all that is suggested by one reader. But lets also read about how PR Xanana praised John Martinkus' journalistic ability and courage, and dedication to the cause of the people of Timor-Leste, during their pre-independence struggle, The following is the forward to Martinkus' award winning book "Dirty Little war" which documents Indonesian oppression of Eas Timor and its people. This is now the same journalist wrting and producing documentaries about the recent crisis. He knows and understands the personalities involved in Timor politics. He has thus far been the only one to clearly show the hand of the militia figures like Nemesio Carvalho and Rui Lopes. Lets give Martinkus some benefit of doubt; after all he has high references for his works and achievements in journalism not only in Timor-Leste but in Iraq and Ache. He is no hack journalist like Liz Jackson.

"Foreword to Dirty Little War, Random House, 2001
By Xanana Gusmão

When reading this book it is important to try to understand what the effect of the violence catalogued here has had upon the East Timorese people today. Remember that the violent consequences of Indonesian military rule of East Timor in the period covered here were only the final stages of a 25 year brutal occupation. Far worse atrocities that those detailed here were carried out against the East Timorese people in the late seventies and eighties. Sadly for us, these were not well documented. The international media were largely silent because of foreign governments concern for their relations with Indonesia and the great impossibility of anyone gaining physical access to East Timor.
Until 1989, East Timor was barred to all outsiders and the internal conflict, which all Timorese knew very well, was largely unknown beyond our prison-island. In 1991 the brave Youth resistance led a massive demonstration that had an extraordinary political impact. The dramatic footage of Indonesian forces murdering unarmed East Timorese civilians opened the world’s eyes to the violence that until then had been kept hidden.
Despite the widespread international attention the footage aroused, only a very small number of journalists and politicians continued to pay close attention to, report and speak out about the continuing repression inside East Timor. Although I often said we were alone in our struggle we were not; there were people all over the world who worried about us and helped us.
The work of journalists, such as John Martinkus, in East Timor became increasingly important throughout the nineties. Comprehensive and impartial documentation of incidents of violence conducted against East Timorese people paved the way for the international pressure on the Indonesian government to allow the United Nations to conduct the ballot in August 1999.
When the Indonesian military and their militia proxies embarked on the campaign of killing, depopulation and the destruction and theft of property in East Timor in response to the independence result, it looked as though East Timor and the suffering of its people would once again be hidden from the outside world. It was only a handful of internationals who remained to try and document the final crimes of the Indonesian military that took place before international peacekeepers were allowed into the country. This book is one such document.
John Martinkus covered our conflict from inside East Timor through the period of armed struggle by our heroic Falintil guerillas, the years of brave youth and clandestine resistance, to the violence before and after the ballot as well as the eventual arrival of the peacekeepers and the departure of the Indonesian forces. The stories he wrote about the atrocities helped to bring international attention to the genocide the world was ignoring.
This book provides a first-hand account of some of the key events that led to the long awaited independence of East Timor. The violence that it documents illustrates the cruel and violent tactics so long applied to our people. We are still trying to recover from these manipulations to our society. Freedom has a sour taste for some trying to overcome all that has been perpetrated on them and cope with the huge social and economic problems that exist in our country. A complex political process awaits us over the next year: civil registration, civic education, setting up of an electoral system, nationwide elections, the drafting of a constitution and the setting up of democratic institutions. We want a harmonious transition and for that we need wise and thoughtful leadership and support.
I hope his book goes some way towards making people understand the very recent violent history of our homeland and the current and long-term effects this will have on our own society. I hope readers of the book will be better able to empathize with us in our continuing struggle to overcome our tragic past and create a peaceful, just and democratic society. We still need our friends to support and understand us in our new struggle."

Anónimo disse...

So what if the President praised him for writing that book at a time when he the indonesians were opressing the Timorese. The fact is that now Martinkus is acting more like the radical leftist that he is supporting the timorese party of his liking. Period!
The timorese youth were also praised for their courage during the resistance years and today we see a lot of them destroying that which they also fought for. Should we continue to praise them for all those mistakes they are now making. However I must say that these youths are in the current state because the former government didn't do anything significant to lift them out of their bottomless pit by creating jobs for them and today their frustration is going wild. On the other hand, John martinkus is a freelance journalist who has to write sensasionalist stories so he can make a living. His latest article about mausoko's allegations are a piece o sensationalist crap that serves no purpose other than selling newspapers. It certainly does not add any new credible information to help establish responsibilities for this crisis. Everyone in Dili knows the type of small time criminal that Mausoko was before "somehow" and conveniently he became a policeman. Then again given that the former minister was who he was, Mausoko fit his new role like a glove.

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Todas as traduções de inglês para português (e também de francês para português) são feitas pela Margarida, que conhecemos recentemente, mas que desde sempre nos ajuda.

Obrigado pela solidariedade, Margarida!

Mensagem inicial - 16 de Maio de 2006

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